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Memphis Podcasts We’re Loving

According to 2024’s “The Infinite Dial” report by Edison Research, 47 percent of the U.S. population, 12 and older, listened to at least one podcast in the span of a month, up 12 percent from the year before. What can we say? People like their podcasts. So much so that there are millions of them. We tried Googling the exact number but got bogged down in the AI of it all, so we landed at millions … or at least hundreds of thousands. 

What we can say with certainty is that a decent number of podcasts are being created right here in Memphis. Check out what a few local podcasters had to say in this week’s cover story, and take a peek at the sidebar to discover even more podcasts to add to your playlist. 

Verbally Effective

If there’s a go-to expert in podcasting in Memphis, it’s Ena Esco. She’s the host of Verbally Effective, innovator in residence at Cossitt Library, founder of the PodBox Memphis Podcast Festival, and the wearer of many more hats in this new media landscape.

With a background in radio since graduating from LeMoyne-Owen College in 2001, Esco started her podcast in 2018. “With radio, you only have so many minutes that you can have a conversation,” she says, “and I wanted to extend those conversations through podcasting. And so I wanted it to be a podcast that intersected art, culture, politics, entertainment, with a Memphis focus.” 

Ena Esco, host of Verbally Effective (Photo: Courtesy Ena Esco)

Her Verbally Effective became home for just that, with each episode, over 300 in total, in conversation with a Memphis changemaker — from National Civil Rights Museum president Russell Wigginton to Grammy Award-winning Crystal Nicole to therapist Brandy J. Flynn. “You just never know what people have gone through to be where they are today,” she says, “and to hear their stories lets me know that the type of work that I’m doing with podcasting is important because I know that their stories will resonate with other people.”

Esco’s goal, she says, is to elevate voices, whether that’s in her own podcast or through helping others create theirs. “So much is going on right now, especially right now, with people trying to silence voices, but we can utilize the new media platforms to get our messaging across.”

“With podcasting, anything is on the table,” adds Esco. “In podcasting, you can create your own situation. You can format your show however you want to format your show. You can monetize. You can build relationships with people that you probably never would.”

After building her audience with Verbally Effective, Esco drew the attention of Memphis Public Libraries’ leadership and before too long became its first-ever innovator in residence, coordinating free podcast programming at Cossitt Library, developing workshops, curating panels and shows, and working with podcasters individually. In her nearly three years at Cossitt, Esco has helped podcasters in a gamut of genres, from sports to lifestyle to travel. “When you get [people] into podcasting, you’re really building up their confidence in making them a stronger speaker, a better storyteller,” she says. “It just gives me joy to see people transform in their way.”

For her work through the library system, Esco earned an honorable mention from the Urban Libraries Council Innovation Awards in 2024. “It was a big deal because it afforded [the Memphis Public Libraries] the opportunity to receive a grant to bring in more innovators [in other areas],” she says.

This coming year, Esco hopes to produce 10 podcasts, with a focus on community podcasting. “It’s going to be quite the undertaking,” she says. 

Also in 2025, Esco will lead digital radio, podcasting, and TV broadcasting programming for the recently reopened Lowery Communication Center at LeMoyne-Owen College. “This is a full-circle moment for me because I started my media career as a senior, and now I’m back at my alma mater, seeing the students in this particular subject matter, so I’m just blessed. I am really blessed.”

In September, she’ll host the PodBox Memphis Podcast Festival, an annual event with industry experts, panels, mixers, and more. She’ll also host quarterly meetups with established and potential podcasters throughout the year. 

Find Esco on social media @enaesco. Verbally Effective, in addition to being available for streaming, is aired on WXYR on Tuesdays at noon. — Abigail Morici

Cemetery Row

A deep and ominous bell tolls over the cold, lonely, windswept graveyard. 

It’d be pretty scary, but the hosts of Cemetery Row are there to hold your hand and tell you it’s all okay. Then they start telling you the stories of some of the folks buried there and — before you know it, champ — you’re starting to have fun. 

“Cemeteries are not scary places,” says Sheena Barnett, one of the podcast’s three hosts. “They’re not sad places. They can be, obviously if you’re going to where a loved one is buried. But I see them as places of love, places full of stories, places that need to be preserved.”

The sentiment is shared by hosts Lori Pope and Hannah Donegan. The trio of “spooky girls” met as Ole Miss journalism students, kept tight after school, and wanted to stay that way when Donegan moved to Chicago. Barnett volunteered at Elmwood Cemetery cleaning headstones and told the others about all the great stories out there. Cemetery Row became a way for them to connect and to hone their haunted proclivities.

Pope’s dad would tease her about “Rosie the ghost,” who was said to roam an old family cemetery on her grandparents’ farm. Barnett grew up on Unsolved Mysteries and going to cemeteries with her mother and grandmother. A “Jane Doe” headstone mystified a younger Donegan when seen in a graveyard in plain view of her Olive Branch Middle School. 

That ominous bell really does toll to open each episode of Cemetery Row. The hosts introduce themselves, banter, connect, tell a few inside jokes, and they cuss … like a lot. The meat of the show, though, is true stories of the dead.

“Just like most people from history, she has parts of her life where she’s a total relatable badass, and then there’s parts where she kind of sucks a little bit,” Donagen says of occultist, ceremonial magician, and novelist Dion Fortune in an October episode called “Occultists, Psychics, and Cryptids.” “She was a rich, white lady in early 20th-century England. So, what are you gonna do?”

That episode also featured the stories of Simon Warner, a psychic and crime doctor, known as The Seer of Shelbyville (Tennessee), and some spooky tales from Idaho (a bit outside of the cemetery, strictly speaking, but right next door). 

The hosts laugh, bomb each other with bon mots, and keep things casual. But they flex those journalism degrees in well-researched stories, written with a straight-ahead newspaper eloquence. Not every episode has a theme but some have featured athletes, LGBTQ folks, Black excellence, and more. One featured people named Dick.

Dial up Cemetery Row wherever you find podcasts. Pope, Doengan, and Barnett will have you skipping through the headstones in no time. — Toby Sells

Night Classy

Have you ever been curious about the deep intricacies of society that our history books never dreamed of covering? You know, like the 1950s quiz show scandal that unearthed rigging and resulted in congressional hearings? Or have you or a loved one been approached by a charming Nigerian prince who only needs your entire life savings to help him out? If you’re looking to dive more into his origin story (and the many ways he presents himself), or just looking to satiate your hunger for obscure knowledge, class is in session on the Night Classy podcast.

Hayley Madden and Katja Barnhart are two educators by day, taking their aptitude for knowledge from the classroom to the mic. Both women met through Teach For America (TFA) and bonded over The Office — facilitated by the “TFA experience,” which Madden explains is like an “extension of college.”

Katja Barnhart and Hayley Madden host Night Classy. (Photo: Alec Ogg)

Madden says the podcast was originally Barnhart’s idea, which she says stemmed from her “obsession” with podcasts, and after moving to a new place, this seemed like the perfect new hobby to take up. Barnhart remembers thinking, “This is it; this is going to be good.”

The podcast’s future was further solidified when Barnhart met her longtime boyfriend Alec Ogg, who’s a podcast producer by trade and offered to produce the podcast.

As a child, Madden says she liked to experiment with different things such as making mud pies and catching frogs. “Maybe not researching like I do now as an adult, but just getting into things is something I’ve always been into,” she adds.

Barnhart says she’s always been obsessed with history, always finding herself engrossed in historical fiction. She then found herself obtaining a history degree, but ended up teaching math.

“[I] didn’t really have an outlet to read about the kind of things I wanted to aside from my spare time, so the podcast has been a good way to scratch that itch,” Barnhart says.

During each episode, the hosts pick two stories that they’ve each researched with detailed notes about topics that can be defined as “oddities and curiosities you’ve never learned in school.” As they approach their 250th episode on their main feed, the ladies have covered brain eating amoebas, the lore of America’s Next Top Model, and the Ant Hill Kids Cult to name a few.

“It had to be something we wanted to research,” Madden says. “If it’s not fun on the front end, then it’s not going to be fun for us to actually do, execute, and listen to later.”

Barnhart also adds that they didn’t want to limit themselves to true crime, paranormal, and reality TV. While they’re interested in all of these things, diversifying their content keeps the experience fresh.

“I feel like if you have to read about it every single week, you’re going to hate it,” Barnhart explains. “We wanted options.”

“We were like, ‘What’s our hook?’” Madden adds. “Well, we’re teachers.” — Kailynn Johnson

Sonosphere

Sonosphere is more than just a podcast, and had been even before it became a radio show on WYXR (every Monday at 4 p.m.). More than most podcasts, perhaps, it was founded with a mission: fostering more appreciation of unconventional music in Memphis. As co-founder Amy Schaftlein says, the goal of Sonosphere was “highlighting the sort of experimental bands that don’t really fit into a genre, but have always brought intriguing and interesting sounds. Not everybody could tell if they liked or not. You know, like when you try a new food, you’re kind of like, ‘I don’t know if I like that.’ But you might start to like it a lot more as you try it in different ways.” 

Realizing this would take more than a mere podcast, Schaftlein started the nonprofit Sonosphere Inc. with then-fellow president/CEO Christopher Williams in 2017, intent on programming live performances and lectures, music festivals, and audio documentaries. Thus, right from the beginning, Sonosphere the podcast had a parallel production series known as Sound Observations. “A lot of the Sound Observations series that we brought to Memphis back in 2017, ’18, and ’19 highlighted experimental artists like Wu Fei, who plays a very ancient Chinese instrument.”

Amy Schaftlein and Jenny Davis of Sonosphere (Photo: Amy Schaftlein)

At the time, Schaftlein says, Crosstown Arts had not yet leaned into the kind of adventurous programming that they’re now known for. But as Crosstown Arts evolved, with Memphis Symphony Orchestra flutist and Blueshift Ensemble member Jenny Davis taking on music programming for a time, there was less of a need for the Sound Observations series, and Sonosphere the podcast came to the fore. When Williams moved away, Schaftlein, after hosting solo for a while, thought that Davis would be the perfect partner.  

“Jenny worked with Chris and I on our Sound Observations when she was at Crosstown Arts,” says Schaftlein. “And she also created the Continuum Fest [a local celebration of New Music and avant garde classical compositions], which she invited Sonosphere to ‘sponsor’ — which really meant we covered it for them — and we came up with some content for the fest. We’ve always worked with Jenny through Crosstown Arts, and so she’s been a part of the podcast, tangentially, for a while. And so it just seemed like a really good fit.”

This was also a good way for Davis to keep her hand in experimental music as she moved on to become the executive director of the Memphis Youth Symphony Program (MYSP). A recent episode of the podcast, for example, focused solely on last year’s Continuum Fest, staged at the Beethoven Club.

Meanwhile, the podcast evolved into a radio show when WYXR began broadcasting in October 2020. And while that slowed the podcast production a bit, it’s really all of a piece. Indeed, as Schaftlein says, “I actually worked for WEVL when I was in college and I had a show on the station. That’s part of what prompted Sonosphere. I really wanted a radio show on WEVL, and they took a while to get back to me, and so I just kind of started it. I was like, ‘We can do this from home!’ You know, podcasting was a thing. It wasn’t as big as now, but it was still a thing then. So we just went ahead and did it ourselves.”  — Alex Greene

For your listening pleasure:

Astronomica
Join a group of nerds as they crew the definitely-not-piloted-by-a-rogue-AI ship The Admiral Grace in a science-fiction OSR actual play podcast using the Stars Without Number RPG system.

Black Is America
Dominic Lawson highlights little-known African-American figures and stories.

Champions of the Lost Causes
Marvin Stockwell talks to folks across the country about their success and setbacks. 

Got Points Podcast
Ashling Woolley and Tiffani Denham teach listeners how to build up travel points quickly, how to keep a high bank of points, and how to use these points to maximize every benefit. 

Grits and Grinds: Memphis Grizzlies
Keith Parish covers the Grizzlies year-round with in-depth analysis. 

Like You: Mindfulness for Kids
Noah Glenn uses breathing, affirmations, music, and imagination to support social-emotional health and mental wellness for kids. 

Memphis Flyer Video Podcast
Oh, hello, that’s us! Each week, Chris McCoy and a co-host take you through the paper and give you insight into the madness that goes on at the Memphis Flyer

The Permanent Record
Just City’s podcast features conversations about the criminal justice system and how individuals can work to make it smaller, fairer, and better for everyone. 

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Memphis Podcasts Are Finding Their Tribes

Podcasts are having a moment. Well, they’ve been having a moment. And, these days, it seems everyone has one.  

Shaq has a podcast. Jay and Silent Bob have one. Snoop Dogg has one.

Paula Deen (remember her?) has one. Neil deGrasse Tyson has one. So do Goldman Sachs, GE, Netflix, and eBay. 

Right there on your phone or laptop or car radio you can hear shows about film, music, comic books, art, finance, history, UFOs, technology, current events, Donald Trump — name the subject, and there’s a podcast (or six) about it. And you can hear most of them for free.

But podcasting has been around a long time. It’s so old that the word itself is a portmanteau of “broadcast” and “iPod” (remember those?). The word was coined around 2004, when some of the first podcasts were being produced on a consistent basis. Apple included support for podcasts in iTunes 4.9 in 2005, so users didn’t have to download the shows and then port them to their mobile devices. They were just … there. Soon thereafter, radio companies began to flow their content on the iTunes platform, and the medium took off. 

Podcasts’ recent rise is credited largely to Serial. The true crime show was downloaded 10 million times in the seven weeks after its debut. And its follow-up, S-Town, shattered that record. Both shows brought millions to the podcasting medium.

Though more than half of the country (60 percent) knows the word “podcasting,” only 40 percent of Americans have ever listened to one, according to new data from Edison Research. Those who listen regularly are mostly educated males with a good, full-time job, according to Edison. Even still, most podcast listeners said they don’t listen on a regular basis.

But, while podcasts are having a moment, they also have a bright future. Podcast ad revenues have grown by 85 percent since this time last year, according to a new report from the Interactive Advertising Bureau and PricewaterhouseCoopers. And that figure is on track to reach more than $220 million this year. For this, an IAB executive said the podcast landscape will continue to grow mainstream.

The podcasting universe has historically been populated with independent producers making independent shows about whatever in the hell they found interesting. They’d chronicle their own lives, or talk sports, or just talk with friends while they played party games. (See the OAM Network section of the story below.)

There are now dozens of podcasts in Memphis — about sports, music, social media, bikes, fitness, insults, creativity, and, perhaps not surprisingly, there are a ton of shows about church and religion.  

Welcome to Night Vale, one of the most successful podcasts of all time, is slated for a live performance Tuesday, July 11th, at the Germantown Performing Arts Center. Also, look for the newly re-launched Memphis Flyer podcast out now on memphisflyer.com, iTunes, or wherever you find podcasts.

For this issue, we found some of the city’s most interesting podcasts and talked to the creative, hard-working people behind them. Even so, we certainly couldn’t cover every show in Memphis, which is a great problem to have. We fully expect, though, that many, many more creative Memphians will find their ways to the medium, slap on some headphones, slide behind a microphone, hit record, and broadcast our city to the digital masses. — Toby Sells 

OAM NETWORK
Podcasts, like everything else, provide endless possibilities. That’s the way Gil Worth sees it. 

“I don’t know if it’s my dumb creative brain, but I have to think about podcasts as more than just [radio on demand],” he says. “They can be anything.”

His OAM Network proves it. Scroll through the list of shows at the Memphis-based, independently owned and operated podcast network, and you’ll find shows about social justice, bikes, games, current events, and being a black nerd in Memphis.

Worth started the network in 2012, and while it has 10 separate shows on the air now, the OAM vault has 20 shows which aren’t “live” anymore but can be accessed anytime.

Burned out on years of playing music, Worth discovered podcasts. He had recording equipment and time and thought, “Maybe I could do one of these.” He did. It was a variety show with interviews, discussion, and games. Did anybody listen?

“Probably not, no,” Worth says.

But he enjoyed the process and kept going. Others started asking him how he did it, and he offered them his help. Then, he formed the OAM Network (OAM is an acronym for the first letters of his children’s names: Owen, Adia, and Mia). 

The network will soon move to a brand-new studio in Crosstown Concourse. Church Health partnered with the OAM Network and Forever Ready, a video production company, to house both organizations in a big, glass booth on the ground floor of the building, there for all to watch. 

While podcasts are, indeed, having a moment, Worth hopes that moment lasts a long time. “It’s almost like my mission statement,” Worth says. “Is it going to last, or did I make terrible decisions? Ah, you should’ve stayed in school, Gil.”  — TS

www.theoamnetwork.com

Justin Fox Burks

Southern Hollows

SOUTHERN HOLLOWS
Stinson Liles’ new history podcast Southern Hollows peddles in the grim and the inhumane — all of it a particularly Southern shame: a man is set on fire, babies are stolen, a mob breaks into a prison, a town is flushed of its black citizens.

One could argue that it makes all the sense in the world that this masterfully done podcast with its focus on long-ago bad deeds done south of the Mason-Dixon line is a result of current events. 

“Right up to the election, I was listening to a lot of current events podcasts, and I kind of burned out on them. I needed to take some time for myself,” Liles explains. “That’s when I found myself listening to more and more humanities, storytelling, and history. That’s when I got this idea together.” 

Liles had a vision: a single-voiced, little-known history story, one with a moral that didn’t have to be spoon fed to the audience. That “hollows” angle intrigued Liles. 

“Given where we are in the world, I’m really interested in the history we intentionally mislead ourselves on,” he says. “I just thought there was a real opportunity, and maybe even coming from the voice of a Southerner to, you know, own up to a lot of this stuff. I think we’re really conflicted as Southerners in a lot of ways because everyone needs lore, family lore, regional lore.

“When it’s conflicted like that, it’s hard to separate ‘how can I love old grandpappy but find the history of my entire surroundings an abomination?'”

Southern Hollows is now four episodes into its first 12-episode season, with each episode averaging about 1,000 downloads. Liles had hoped to release episodes every other week, but stuff (like straight-line winds) got in the way. He was also worried that he wouldn’t have enough ideas for season two, but his notepad is filled. — Susan Ellis

www.southernhollows.com

BLACK NERD POWER
Richard Douglas Jones is one of the funniest people in Memphis. He’s the new host of the P&H Cafe’s popular Thursday night open mic, and Patton Oswalt has personally asked him to be his opening act twice.

Jones is also the creator and co-host of the Black Nerd Power (BNP) podcast, and its corollary stand-up showcase the Black Nerd Power Comedy Hour. Both were developed, in part, as a response to the isolation he felt as an African-American comedian and media consumer who wasn’t all that into the Def Comedy Jam model. He liked comic books, and science fiction, and animation, and video games, and — you know — nerd stuff.  

“You can be a nerd about anything,” Jones says, and BNP proves it by addressing obvious topics like superheroes, less obvious topics like romance novels, and completely unexpected topics like office supplies. “People completely nerd-out over office supplies,” he says before nerding out over his favorite office supplies. “You get people talking about pens, and pencils, and stationary, and you can just see their nips protruding through their shirts.”

While touring America as a comic, Jones came to feel less alone, finding more folks like himself. Within their home comedy scenes, they were what Jones described as “the only Klingons on the Enterprise.” So Black Nerd Power became like a very funny message in a bottle — written in Klingon. Its theme: “You are not alone.”

“My plan right now is to evolve the podcast into a live show,” says Jones, whose guests have included comedians like Paul Mooney, David Alan Greer, and John Witherspoon.

On the nerd front, Jones takes a controversial position on Wonder Woman, giving the film two thumbs down and describing it as “Captain America set during WWI.” He’s excited about Spider-Man: Homecoming and Black Panther. He wants others who thought Aisha Hinds was sexy in her performance as Harriet Tubman on the TV series Underground to know it’s okay to feel that way. 

“Harriet was a powerful woman,” he says. “And power is sexy.” 

Black Nerd Power has broadcast 140 episodes. They are all archived and available at the OAM network. — Chris Davis

www.theoamnetwork.com/bnp

NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECT
“It’s going to be the bomb-diggity.” 

That’s a phrase you’ll often hear from Joyce Cox, co-host of the Neighborhood Connect podcast from the city of Memphis’ Department of Housing and Community Development (HCD).

Cox, HCD’s manager of communication and civic engagement, hosts the show along with HCD director Paul Young. He says the show is designed to create a platform for the city to communicate happenings and efforts made in various neighborhoods, as well as be a medium for members of the community to talk about the initiatives, opportunities, and obstacles in their neighborhoods.

“We [HCD] want to continue to be involved in larger projects, but our focus is on neighborhoods,” Young says. “The lifeblood of the city comes from the neighborhoods, and we want to elevate things happening in them.”

There have been six episodes of the podcast to date, with topics ranging from urban art to home ownership to removing blight to more complicated topics, including how HCD is funded. 

“We give insight to different things in different ways,” Young says. “It’s a lot easier when you are listening to someone explain something.”

The show has had around 4,500 downloads since its inception last November. Although listeners tripled in the spring, Young says one of the biggest challenges in getting more listeners so far is the podcast’s irregular schedule.

Over the next month, Young says the goal is to “freshen up” the podcast and increase listener rates. One way he plans to do this is by incorporating and engaging more youth with topics ranging from struggles common among young people to opportunities for youth and crime rates in their generation.

“Most neighborhood leaders aren’t young people,” Young says. “So we want to give the youth a space that allows them to have their voices heard.”  — Maya Smith
Neighborhood Connect can be found on iTunes or Stitches.

Justin Fox Burks

Sonosphere

SONOSPHERE
Amy Schaftlein, who produces the Sonsphere podcast with Christopher Williams and engineer Zach Losher, attributes the current boom in podcasting to its ease of use. 

“The medium is just so convenient,” Schaftlein says. “It’s like the DVR of radio. You can put it on your list, and if you are about to go on a long car ride or a long walk or something, you can just put it on.” 

Sonsophere is “an exploration of sound in music and art movements through history.” Williams saw the word in the book Sound in the Margins and thought it was perfect for the show.

“It encompasses our tagline,” Williams says. “The ‘sounds all around you.'”

Schaftlein and Williams began Sonosphere in August 2015, with a show about Detroit-based industrial noise band Wolf Eyes but quickly found themselves headed down a research rabbit hole. 

“I approached the podcast from a place of curiosity,” Schaftlein says. “How did we get from classical music to electronic noise?”

Even though the abstract music covered by Sonsosphere isn’t burning up the charts, these musicians’ theories and experiments have had a lasting impact on hip-hop, rock, and EDM. Much of the podcast’s audience is listening in Europe, such as the Vienna experimental music collective, which recently sent thanks for inspiration. 

“Most of the podcasts in Memphis are Memphis-specific,” says Losher. “I like this, because is it Memphis-based but it has international appeal.” — Chris McCoy

www.sonospherepodcast.com

You Like Hoops?

YOU LIKE HOOPS?
Chase Lucas hosts a podcast that is ostensibly about sports but is really about life, Memphis, and what it means to be a fan of something. 

You Like Hoops? is available on the GBB Live feed, the podcast of Grizzlies blog Grizzly Bear Blues. Since launching the show in February (full disclosure: I was a guest on episode 4), Lucas has taken the conversational format of many podcasts and applied it to a field more driven by talking about stats and scores.

What makes You Like Hoops? such a breath of fresh air in the sports vertical (where everyone has a hot take about everything usually just for the sake of having an opinion) is that its roots aren’t really in sports media at all, but other shows Lucas enjoyed.

You Made it Weird with Pete Holmes is a wide-ranging, in-depth conversation where you come away feeling like you really know the guest,” Lucas says. And it’s not just the format, but the method of production as well: “[Holmes] always records in-person, which I attempt to do whenever possible.” 

Because Lucas has done the same, the format lends itself to an intimacy in the conversation that isn’t the norm among sportswriters. There’s no sense of the hosts and guests as personae — they’re just people talking.

NBA culture is an odd, precious thing. It’s maybe the only community left on Twitter that’s still driven by enthusiasts watching and discussing something they enjoy as it happens. 

“I wanted to try a spin on that but within this crazy basketball culture that exists so far outside of what happens during the actual games,” Lucas says. — Kevin Lipe

www.grizzlybearblues.com/you-like-hoops-podcast

Michael Donahue

Dinner With the King

DINNER WITH THE KING
Hosting his podcast, Dinner with the King, each Wednesday on Pod Avenue is a natural for Jerry “The King” Lawler. 

He wanted to be a disc jockey before he decided to become a professional wrestler. In the late ’60s Lawler entered some of his drawings and won second place in a WMPS radio contest. But it was radio announcer, Scott Shannon, who made him want to become a deejay. Lawler was at the awards ceremony at Southland Mall. 

“Scott comes out and he’s got on almost like a white jumpsuit like Elvis,” he says. “It’s open up all the way down. No shirt. He’s got a white scarf around his neck. And he’s got this long, long blonde hair and everything. Like a rock star.

“All the girls went crazy. They started screaming. Right then at that point I said, ‘That’s what I want to be. A radio deejay.'”

Shannon invited Lawler to the station. He asked him to draw weekly Scott Shannon caricatures for the station’s Top 10 records flyer. Lawler told Shannon he’d love to try to be a deejay. Shannon helped Lawler put together a demo tape, and Lawler got a job as a deejay at WMQM.

When he was asked to host a podcast, Lawler said he’d do it as long as he didn’t have to feature guests each week. 

“They said, ‘You don’t need to have a guest,'” Lawler says. “‘Just do it yourself. You just go on and talk every week. Tell about what you’ve done, and tell old stories from Memphis wrestling.'”

Lawler and cohost Glenn Moore have done 16 episodes, which can be found at podavenue.com/king as well as iTunes, Sticher, Google Play and other podcast apps. 

“We are close to 800,000 downloads so far,” he said. — Michael Donahue

www.podavenue.com/king